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	<title>Comments on: Social software and the collapse of identity</title>
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		<title>By: TK</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-1029</link>
		<dc:creator>TK</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jan 2007 05:11:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is the intention or directed attention of the individual that is the precise mirror of ones life energy.    What an onlooker can see of you and what you know to be true of yourself, are two distinct things.  Unless you lose your shit and go insane.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is the intention or directed attention of the individual that is the precise mirror of ones life energy.    What an onlooker can see of you and what you know to be true of yourself, are two distinct things.  Unless you lose your shit and go insane.</p>
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		<title>By: Bradley Heinz</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-39</link>
		<dc:creator>Bradley Heinz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jun 2006 16:48:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Irving Goffman even argues as a sociologist that we are all and only ‘masks’ - that there is no self.

I&#039;ve heard this many times in my cultural anthropology classes before - they call this &quot;performance theory,&quot; &quot;performativity,&quot; or &quot;performance studies.&quot;  Seems like there&#039;s no real categorization of this sociological lense yet, and probably because it&#039;s far too broad.  I&#039;ve heard the term used in constructions of syntax ( &lt;a&gt; J.L. Austin&lt;/a&gt;), all the way to constructions of gender and self (see &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Judith Butler&lt;/a&gt;).  Key to Butler and her colleague&#039;s theories is that we perform differently, and usually unconsciously so, for each unique situation we find ourselves in.  That is to say, we have a mask for every occasion, whether we like it or not.

The internet has been extremely liberating for those wishing to wear certain masks: the gay man in rural Montana may not have the physical social space to be &quot;himself&quot;, but on the internet he can find other like-minded men without fear. The dark side to this is that the pedophile can easily don deceptive masks, too.

If we&#039;re nothing more than a collection of masks, what is the &quot;self&quot;?  Are we ever in a mask-less state that reveals the true self?  If one has a huge variance in masks worn, does this mean he has a less-defined, more scattered inner self?  

I can&#039;t help but feel like a discrete entity, an individual.  But maybe there is no &quot;me&quot;.  If the only way &quot;me&quot; is constructed is through interactions with others and my environment, the lines distinguishing the individual from the collective seem to blur considerably.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Irving Goffman even argues as a sociologist that we are all and only ‘masks’ &#8211; that there is no self.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve heard this many times in my cultural anthropology classes before &#8211; they call this &#8220;performance theory,&#8221; &#8220;performativity,&#8221; or &#8220;performance studies.&#8221;  Seems like there&#8217;s no real categorization of this sociological lense yet, and probably because it&#8217;s far too broad.  I&#8217;ve heard the term used in constructions of syntax ( <a> J.L. Austin</a>), all the way to constructions of gender and self (see <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Butler" rel="nofollow">Judith Butler</a>).  Key to Butler and her colleague&#8217;s theories is that we perform differently, and usually unconsciously so, for each unique situation we find ourselves in.  That is to say, we have a mask for every occasion, whether we like it or not.</p>
<p>The internet has been extremely liberating for those wishing to wear certain masks: the gay man in rural Montana may not have the physical social space to be &#8220;himself&#8221;, but on the internet he can find other like-minded men without fear. The dark side to this is that the pedophile can easily don deceptive masks, too.</p>
<p>If we&#8217;re nothing more than a collection of masks, what is the &#8220;self&#8221;?  Are we ever in a mask-less state that reveals the true self?  If one has a huge variance in masks worn, does this mean he has a less-defined, more scattered inner self?  </p>
<p>I can&#8217;t help but feel like a discrete entity, an individual.  But maybe there is no &#8220;me&#8221;.  If the only way &#8220;me&#8221; is constructed is through interactions with others and my environment, the lines distinguishing the individual from the collective seem to blur considerably.</p>
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		<title>By: RoyPea</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-14</link>
		<dc:creator>RoyPea</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Apr 2006 02:21:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is an intriguing literature in the social and developmental psychology field around what is &quot;the self&quot;. Is it a single integrative mind or multiple selves? Irving Goffman even argues as a sociologist that we are all and only &#039;masks&#039; - that there is no self.  In the research area of computer-mediated communications (&lt;a href=&quot;http://jcmc.indiana.edu/&quot;&gt;JCMC&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/journals/tis/index.html&quot;&gt;Information and Society&lt;/a&gt;), there are many writers postulating that cyberspace enables identity play so that people can try out other genders, ages, even other species to see how they are responded to so as to figure out who they would like to be. Stanford psychologist Hazel Markus calls this &quot;possible selves&quot;.  These are big and interesting issues and online worlds and relationships become a new medium for, if you will, &#039;authoring the self&#039;.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is an intriguing literature in the social and developmental psychology field around what is &#8220;the self&#8221;. Is it a single integrative mind or multiple selves? Irving Goffman even argues as a sociologist that we are all and only &#8216;masks&#8217; &#8211; that there is no self.  In the research area of computer-mediated communications (<a href="http://jcmc.indiana.edu/">JCMC</a> and <a href="http://www.informatik.uni-trier.de/~ley/db/journals/tis/index.html">Information and Society</a>), there are many writers postulating that cyberspace enables identity play so that people can try out other genders, ages, even other species to see how they are responded to so as to figure out who they would like to be. Stanford psychologist Hazel Markus calls this &#8220;possible selves&#8221;.  These are big and interesting issues and online worlds and relationships become a new medium for, if you will, &#8216;authoring the self&#8217;.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 23:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Access control based on the context of a relationship seems potentially like a good solution. I wonder how many you&#039;d need to fully solve the problem. Professional and Personal are probably the first useful symmetry break. &lt;a href=&quot;http://flickr.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flickr&lt;/a&gt; has a Friends and Family distinction for photo access control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Access control based on the context of a relationship seems potentially like a good solution. I wonder how many you&#8217;d need to fully solve the problem. Professional and Personal are probably the first useful symmetry break. <a href="http://flickr.com" rel="nofollow">Flickr</a> has a Friends and Family distinction for photo access control.</p>
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		<title>By: Bernard Moon</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-12</link>
		<dc:creator>Bernard Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Apr 2006 06:49:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>randomly came across your blog... some good stuff here. at goingon, we had several discussions on the issue of allowing multiple identities, but held it off since it creates a messy world and is a feature that only serves a very small portion of the online world. we also wanted to avoid having potential stalker issues with people hiding behind various identities :)

to deal with some of the issues you mentioned here, we are focusing on access controls based on degrees and context of your relationships.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>randomly came across your blog&#8230; some good stuff here. at goingon, we had several discussions on the issue of allowing multiple identities, but held it off since it creates a messy world and is a feature that only serves a very small portion of the online world. we also wanted to avoid having potential stalker issues with people hiding behind various identities <img src='http://www.steinbock.org/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>to deal with some of the issues you mentioned here, we are focusing on access controls based on degrees and context of your relationships.</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-11</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Apr 2006 10:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have somewhat entangled two critiques in this post: a criticism of a particular kind of software and a cautionary tale that the whole internet is an aggregator of public identities due to information persistence and searchability. An online community space may be designed to feel like an insulated room filled with like-minded people...but there is no ceiling -- and the whole world is listening in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have somewhat entangled two critiques in this post: a criticism of a particular kind of software and a cautionary tale that the whole internet is an aggregator of public identities due to information persistence and searchability. An online community space may be designed to feel like an insulated room filled with like-minded people&#8230;but there is no ceiling &#8212; and the whole world is listening in.</p>
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		<title>By: Bosko</title>
		<link>http://www.steinbock.org/blog/2006/04/20/identity-collapse/comment-page-1/#comment-10</link>
		<dc:creator>Bosko</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Mar 2006 14:18:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does the sharing of what you explicitly mark as public possibly paint the wrong picture of you?  One thing is for certain: if it does, it&#039;s your fault, because you have complete control over what you make public.

While it is true that your &quot;digital self&quot; (i.e., the collection of all the stuff you generate) can and often does reveal multiple &quot;facets&quot; of your interests and perhaps personality, the bottom line is that all such interpretation results from others viewing the stuff you&#039;ve CHOSEN to share.  Yes, my del.icio.us bookmarks might reveal more than one interest, but at my own discretion.

If you&#039;re already blogging, sharing bookmarks, and sharing photos, I don&#039;t see how having one place to share them &quot;mixes public and private.&quot;

Admittedly, my view seems clear to me, and so I may be biased.  I&#039;m also behind Peoplefeeds (www.peoplefeeds.com) so I appologize if I&#039;m acting convinced.  I believe that there is a purpose for associating content you generate with yourself, and at least the bigger idea behind Peoplefeeds is proving it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does the sharing of what you explicitly mark as public possibly paint the wrong picture of you?  One thing is for certain: if it does, it&#8217;s your fault, because you have complete control over what you make public.</p>
<p>While it is true that your &#8220;digital self&#8221; (i.e., the collection of all the stuff you generate) can and often does reveal multiple &#8220;facets&#8221; of your interests and perhaps personality, the bottom line is that all such interpretation results from others viewing the stuff you&#8217;ve CHOSEN to share.  Yes, my del.icio.us bookmarks might reveal more than one interest, but at my own discretion.</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re already blogging, sharing bookmarks, and sharing photos, I don&#8217;t see how having one place to share them &#8220;mixes public and private.&#8221;</p>
<p>Admittedly, my view seems clear to me, and so I may be biased.  I&#8217;m also behind Peoplefeeds (www.peoplefeeds.com) so I appologize if I&#8217;m acting convinced.  I believe that there is a purpose for associating content you generate with yourself, and at least the bigger idea behind Peoplefeeds is proving it.</p>
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